One can only assume that anyone who votes against the ban is probably profting from the cock fights.

Nick, unfortuantely an 'educated society' does not necessarily mean a 'civilized society'

Daren,
I think there is certainly a line that can be drawn between being murderous for the sake of filling bellies and being murderous for the sake of sport.

Ray, I wonder if there was some other unappetising pork attached to the bill that caused it to fail (puns somewhat intended).

I believe the last time it was blocked it was blocked for a BS reason. They said it was in the wrong committee, which I guess is a valid reason, but it was sent to that committee on purpose. Maybe so the politician can say he tried when he really didn't. But dirty politics in Louisiana? Who would believe that.

Speaking of Louisiana, I had a guy working for me from your fine state and he told me something I find equally shocking... He told me that in Louisiana, if you divorce your wife, in the eyes of the law, she may still be considered your sister?! Just kidding, don't shoot me.

Mark is now officially banned from this blog. ;)

Yeah I'd put cock fighting right up there with Dog Fighting.
With regards to what Rob said about being cultural, well, I disagree to the effect that a line does need to be drawn.

I mean in some cultures, camel racing is a popular sport, where they smuggle little children from impoverished parts of the middle east and the Indian Subcontinent.

I think a sport ceases to be a sport, when the participants human, beast or extra-terrestrial, do not have a free will to choose to participate, and/or were brainwashed (read training the animal) or coerced into doing it. AND at great personal risk, and harm to the being.

FYI, I'm not PETA fanatic, vegan or vegetarian either.

cheers,
Ali

It's so unfortunate that PETA is looked down on. They drive me absolutely crazy here in Norfolk, VA where the PETA headquarters are based. There is no doubt in my mind that PETA is on the right side of history. What they are trying to accomplish is noble. Their overall strategy and tactics are just terrible.

I was just having a conversation about this with a PETA person the other day. The sad thing is they don't even seem to realize that people don't like PETA. Oh well. Next time i'll tell them to go after cock fighting instead of the circus.

As I think other's have said, Ziggy, there is a difference between killing an animal for food versus watching animals kill each other for sport.

Frankly I'm not too concern about other countries. They are more than welcome to do cock fighting. I'm concerned about -my- country, or in this case, my state.

and Ziggy... you should have been born in the stone age. I think that would match better to your ideas and "culture".
The only bad part is that there would't be any money...

Rui, not quite sure what you mean about Louisiana cocks, obviously I think it should be banned country-wide. (Only one other state allows it.)

I do have one request - please do not attack Ziggy. Let's be polite and respect each other's views here.

As I said: How about trout fishing?

Hi ziggy,

Yes, both are used as means for Men's end.
Men needs food to live. If you don't eat you die.
Men doesn't need to see animals fighting, being tortured, suffering, bleeding, dying...

Obviously you don't need to eat animals. Some people can choose what they eat, and some chose not to eat animals.
If an animal has to be killed, kill it fast, without suffering. This is how I want to die!

> If you're saying animals have rights - which they don't

Do you know that these kind of things have been said many times throughout History? Words like 'Hitler', 'slavery', 'Saddam', 'genocide', 'torture'.... come to my mind.

I wasn't familiar with trout fishing, so I had to look it up.
I understand it's "fish and let go". Obviously it's not acceptable. Once again, it's just for amusement. Animal torturing and suffering are involved.
We don't have trout fishing, just like we don't have deer or seal hunting. Even butterfly collecting is not a practice here.
But I'm against all of them, just like I'm against wail hunting or kanguru killing.
I'd say that people who defend animals' rights are against these. Just like they are against many other things like animals in cages, explored in circus, etc,...
For some of these things it's impossible for us to have a campaign, but we can boycott some countries' products, sign petitions, talk to people.

And talking to people is, in my opinion, one of the most important things. A this is exactly why I feel I'm not wasting my time here. If you're reading Ray's ColdFusing blog, that shows something already.
People can always change their minds, learn from others, and start to see what's wrong. Mainly, they can learn to think for themselves.

That's why I have to thank Ray for brigging these matters up, and not limiting his posts to interesting stuff about ColdFusion.
:)

What makes you think I won't respond? :) From what I know, and I could be wrong, when cows are killed for food, it was a fast and quick death. (Although not painless.) While not perfect, I do find this accceptible. Animals were put here for us to eat. Now if the cows were killed in a long drawn out process I'd consider it cruel.

and Ziggy, I guess it's too late now, but let me tell you that I don´t know much about philosophy. But I was hoping that wasn´t necessary to understand that hurting and killing for pleasure is not "right". If it is, well, I guess we're in big trouble.

Anyway, I didn´t say that animals have rights. I just don´t like people to hurt them for fun. How inteligent is this concept?