Adobe releases public release candidate of ColdFusion 8 - AKA Scorpio
The title says it all. Sorry for all the vague entries earlier. If you have been dying to get your hands on the newest version of ColdFusion, now is your chance:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/coldfusion8/
Download it here, and discuss it here.
So obviously this is big, big news. Adobe has been talking about CF8 for a while now and showing some of the great features. Now that we can all talk about it. Now we can all play with it. So stop watching Letterman and download this baby now.
I plan on writing quite a few blog entries on CF8 over the next few weeks. While I encourage you to read the docs (you will be shocked at all the changes), please let me know what you would like to see here. I plan on talking about some of the "big ticket" items (Server Monitoring anyone?) as well as some of the small gems that folks may miss.
I can honestly say this is the best release yet. Shoot - even my install experience is much improved. (After answering questions, I counted around 40 seconds till CF was done installed.) While I am most definitely biased towards the language I love, I can't imagine a better time to be a ColdFusion developer.
ColdFusion is dying? Give me a break.
p.s. I'll be digging this article and I ask folks to help get it up on the Digg home page.
Comments
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/29/07 11:33 PM
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/29/07 11:50 PM
*tappity* *tap* *tappity* *tap* *tappity* *tap* :D
Maybe this is not the place to ask. But I'll try :)Is there a difference between the public Beta and the Release Candidate available on the Pre-release site?
This probably seems like an obvious question/answer, but they seem to have been released about the same time.
Yes, definitely! Dead - what a joke. Now, I hope Adobe launches a marketing blitz on the decisionmakers. I don't mean just the developers - I mean also those who hold the purse strings.
# Posted By Lola LB
| 5/30/07 5:22 AM
I will second MrBuzzy's question. It looks like the file sizes are different to me. Anyone know whats different between the pre-release RC code and this public beta release? Or can we 'not talk about fight club' ? =)
Unfortunately, this news is going to be competing with news of Google Maps' new Street View (which is admittedly very cool) and that Microsoft Surface thing.
# Posted By Brian Swartzfager
| 5/30/07 8:05 AM
Guys, while I know the answer to this question, do not forget that you are NOT allowed to talk about stuff in the private area. Remember the NDA please.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/30/07 8:11 AM
What did they use to create the new documentation layout?
# Posted By Lou
| 5/30/07 8:11 AM
What are you talking about? All I see are PDFs online.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/30/07 8:18 AM
Installing CF 8 beta on a machine that has CF MX 7 running won't have any effect on the existing installation, right? I'm pretty sure it won't, but I'd rather make sure than have a surprise!
# Posted By Thomas Messier
| 5/30/07 8:47 AM
You can run both. But don't take my word on it. If you are worried, do not install it on your live web site.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/30/07 9:01 AM
Thomas, nope, they can live side by side. You will likely not be able to run both at the same time, so you'll need to stop and start as needed.--- Ben
Adobe needs to clarify for beta testers if there are differences... I'm just saying, if Adobe were to release 2 pre-release versions of the same software within 48 hours, but these hypothetical releases were labeled differently and had different files sizes, this could be very confusing to people testing the private release...Hypothetically this would be confusing and should be clarified from Adobe...
# Posted By Dan G. Switzer, II
| 5/30/07 9:03 AM
CF8 on Zdnet...
# Posted By Yaron Kohn
| 5/30/07 10:34 AM
Dan, the public beta is the same as the one just released to the beta testers. The file sizes actually are the same, the numbers on the public beta site are wrong (and will be corrected).--- Ben
Dugg it and Love it!
# Posted By Duncan Loxton
| 5/30/07 5:55 PM
The company I work for used to be a CF shop but aren't anymore. Why? Why pay what you can get for free? Truth be told I loved ColdFusion but it's hard to justify those prices when a:) you can get really good (or better stuff) for free and b:) when CF developers are not easy to come by. Now, in the case of b you might say that it easy to learn and you'd be correct. However when hiring thats not what a lot of companies are thinking.
# Posted By Jason Kratz
| 5/31/07 9:25 AM
Jason, well, w/o opening a huge can of worms, I'd say I disagree. Yes, PHP is free, but you got a lot more bundled with CF than you would with PHP. Cost of development platform is only one factor. Speed of development is hugely more important I'd say. My belief - and I'm definitely biased here - is that if you take folks with equal skill levels in CF/PHP/Dot Net, then you would see results quicker in CF than you would in the other languages. But again - I'm biased, and I really do NOT want to turn this into a "My Language is Bigger than Yours" thread.As for not being able to find CF people. This isn't due to a lack of CF folks, but rather a spike in jobs I'd say. Shoot - if this were any other language, people would hold that up as a success ("Language X is so hot now you can barely find people to hire.")
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/31/07 9:31 AM
Language COBOL is so hot now you can barely find people to hire.
# Posted By Derek
| 5/31/07 2:09 PM
One more question about using CF 7 and CF 8 together... I just set things up and install went swimmingly. It recommended that you set up with the built in web server if you had a previous installation and you wanted them to coexist. No problem, I did that. Now, I was wondering how I can make the built in web server point to my other webroot. I'm just curious to see my existing CF apps perform under Scorpio. I could obviously just copy them to the other wwwroot directory, but if there's a smarter way to do it I'd love to know.
# Posted By Thomas Messier
| 6/1/07 3:38 PM
It is one of the XML files Thomas. I haven't done it in forever, but I know it is settable.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 6/1/07 3:47 PM
Thanks, I got off my lazy ass and looked into it. For anybody else who needs to do this, check this out: http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/ww...In a nutshell, you need to create a vrtual mapping in the your_cf_root/wwwroot/WEB-INF/jrun-web.xml
Don't forget to create one for the CFIDE as well if need be.
# Posted By Thomas Messier
| 6/1/07 4:07 PM
"ColdFusion is dying? Give me a break."Ok, we give you a break. Now, you tell us what's in CF8 that will make the revival of the dying breed of the webprograminglanguagesspecies possible?
;)
# Posted By Irakli Nadareishvili
| 6/10/07 6:10 AM
Well first off - I take issue with the statement that CF is dying in general. As for what is new in CF8, please look at my blog entries posted after this one. All of my CF8 entries are prefixed with ColdFusion 8, that will make it easy to find. And of course, I'm only one person, so I've blogged about just some of the features. There is a lot more out there.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 6/10/07 10:45 AM
http://digg.com/programming/Adobe_releases_public_...
DZone url coming up.