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• Comment 1 written by Jeff Self on 30 July 2007, at 8:08 AM

  

  Enterprise Edition now costs $7500. Looks like Adobe is not interested in gaining new customers. At least the upgrade cost is less than what we paid for MX7.

• Comment 2 written by Amy Wong on 30 July 2007, at 8:22 AM

  

  The scary dude deserved some recognition for all the CF knowledge he shares with the universe (for the powers of good, that is). Thank you obe wan kenobe!

• Comment 3 written by Jeff Self on 30 July 2007, at 9:13 AM

  

  Anybody else having trouble downloading? I click the download button and nothing happens. No matter which platform I choose for CF8. In fact, even trying to download CF7 doesn't work for me.

• Comment 4 written by Lance on 30 July 2007, at 9:14 AM

  

  @Jeff Self--I downloaded the Mac version just fine earlier this morning. In fact, it was blazing fast on my (normally) slow network here at work.

• Comment 5 written by CFToku on 30 July 2007, at 10:24 AM

  

  Does anyone know the extent of the gateway services within the standard edition? It says 'Limited'. ?

• Comment 6 written by Raymond Camden on 30 July 2007, at 10:29 AM

  

  The limitation is just in performance, not what they can do.

• Comment 7 written by dickbob on 30 July 2007, at 11:04 AM

  

  I'm trying to understand how "limited" the SMS service is in Standard edition.
  
  Any thoughts on what that would mean?

• Comment 8 written by Raymond Camden on 30 July 2007, at 11:11 AM

  

  Guys, I'm going to ping Jason Delmore. I was going to answer, but I want to be clear. I'll be back.

• Comment 9 written by Chris on 30 July 2007, at 11:47 AM

  

  Holy bejeezus Batman! $7.5k to get the Enterprise edition and $3750 for an upgrade to the enterprise? ::: faint ::: How can any company (aside from large corps.) justify such a cost? I don't know how I'm going to sell this to my manager to invest in it now.... :(

• Comment 10 written by David on 30 July 2007, at 1:39 PM

  

  Chris - do you NEED the enterprise edition? If I were you, and was trying to "sell" the boss, I wouldn't start with the price - I'd make sure he/she was sold on the features. If he/she is not, there's probably no need to consider enterprise.
  
  Cheers,
  
  David

• Comment 11 written by Jay on 30 July 2007, at 2:20 PM

  

  Has anyone found Govt./Higher Education pricing info. for CF8 standard edition yet?
  
  I have been looking on the Adobe site for a bit now, but all I can find is the one reference to the regular pricing.
  
  Thanks in advance...

• Comment 12 written by Scott P on 30 July 2007, at 6:56 PM

  

  @Jay - http://tinyurl.com/2spf6q

• Comment 13 written by Jay on 31 July 2007, at 9:35 AM

  

  @Scott P - thanks very much for the link...I have no idea why I couldn't find that while searching for it myself previously. :)

• Comment 14 written by CFToku on 31 July 2007, at 9:14 PM

  

  @Ray:
  
  Anything back from Jason Delmore? Or any other information on what is LIMITED on the non-enterprise version?
  
  Danke!

• Comment 15 written by Raymond Camden on 1 August 2007, at 8:33 AM

  

  Not yet - I think everyone went on vacation. I'll check with another resource.

• Comment 16 written by Jason Delmore on 1 August 2007, at 10:04 AM

  

  Hi all,
  
  So... the question of the day... what do we mean by limiting the gateways... and what do we mean by the EFR in general.
  
  Okay, here's the deal... with ColdFusion 8, we decided that we wanted ANY ColdFusion application to run on ANY ColdFusion server.
  
  Now... so wait a second... you're saying I can do anything?
  Yes, we decided that everyone should have access to gateways and all of the new features.
  
  So then what's the deal with this EFR thing?
  Well... the EFR manages all requests from the Standard implementation to the Enterprise features (we essentially made a tunnel). This provides full compatibility, but does so by using just one thread to manage all of the calls. So, if you want to use CFEXCHANGE and CFPDF at the same time... one will have to wait for the other... the second request queues until the first is complete.
  
  As for gateways, the number of threads for incoming messages is limited to 1 and outgoing messages get routed through the EFR. It's that simple, no big trick.
  
  So, use the gateways and all the new features, enjoy them, show off how cool ColdFusion is!!!
  
  Here's the catch (if you can call it that)... should your application become wildly successful... (which I hope it does... that's good for all of us)... like you finally get your entire corporation to love SMS or you turn all of your paper processes into using PDF Forms... then you will want to upgrade to Enterprise to get those awesome new applications to scale. A few requests here and there will work in Standard perfectly, but if the server is chugging these requests all the time... then its time to upgrade. :)
  
  I think its the coolest thing that ColdFusion applications will be able to run on ANY ColdFusion server. Hopefully you all will agree.
  
  Cheers, :)
  Jason

• Comment 17 written by Raymond Camden on 1 August 2007, at 10:07 AM

  

  Thanks Jason. I don't think I saw it - but can you explain the acronym EFR?

• Comment 18 written by Jason Delmore on 1 August 2007, at 10:11 AM

  

  Sorry! I should have made that more clear too... EFR stands for Enterprise Feature Router. It routes all of the requests from a Standard server to the features that we otherwise would have classified as Enterprise features, to provide full compatibility. :)
  
  I hope that makes sense.

• Comment 19 written by Raymond Camden on 1 August 2007, at 10:16 AM

  

  Thanks again Jason.
  
  So when can we expect CF9?
  
  ;)

• Comment 20 written by CFToku on 1 August 2007, at 10:28 AM

  

  Awesome! Thanks Jason and Ray, this is very informative.
  
  So, now I need to find a way to upgrade CF 7.02 Enterprise to CF 8. :-D

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