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• Comment 1 written by Dale Fraser on 23 April 2009, at 12:22 AM

  

  I am particularly impressed with the UI for the ladder, awsome work.

• Comment 2 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 2:04 AM

  

  Not to mention that the funds are not the true wealth of the user either, for example I have like $0.86 in funds but my true wealth is like a million times that...
  
  And yeah love the UI have to say its the best;-)

• Comment 3 written by Hudu on 23 April 2009, at 2:49 AM

  

  I'm impressed! I hafto start to make a tutorial/manual about this=D
  http://www.tutobook.com

• Comment 4 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 6:22 AM

  

  UI is my middle name. ;
  
  @Andrew: Um, consider it a ranking of liquid wealth then (I think that's what they call it ;).

• Comment 5 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 6:40 AM

  

  *lol*
  
  Btw I did sent you a tweet reply, but as you don't follow me you might not have seen it. I haven't tested your install badge on the blog post, but I was very annoyed that the check for Air was ignored and it downloaded it anyway. Just an FYI that this is a bug that you just may wish to fix, if you haven't already.
  
  I might be wrong, liquid assets from my recall is your total assets on paper. Not 100% sure my meory serves me right there though.

• Comment 6 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 6:48 AM

  

  I'm using the Badge install code that Aptana uses. To be honest, I don't know much about it. If you, or anyone, know a way around the 'whole air package' thing, please let me know.
  
  Yeah, you are probably right on liquid. Meh, what do I know. ;) To be honest, this entire game was a learning exercise so I can work on the -real- game I have in mind.

• Comment 7 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 7:04 AM

  

  Ray, just another FYI I did end up trying the install badge on your website and it worked fine. I think it might have just been the fact that I clicked on the twitter link that it had issues with.

• Comment 8 written by JoshuaSiok on 23 April 2009, at 8:00 AM

  

  I'm going to be addicted to this. Needs some small improvement though: show real-time value of stock owned.

• Comment 9 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 8:05 AM

  

  @Joshua: I will be blogging on how the updates happen. Realtime is probably possible, but beyond my skills. (In fact, I'm 99% sure it IS possible w/ LCDS. I'm using BlazeDS though and I don't think I can. Also, 'non realtime' actually is a GOOD thing for my next application.)

• Comment 10 written by JoshuaSiok on 23 April 2009, at 8:18 AM

  

  @Ray It should be pretty easy to add another column to your display that just shows SHARES * CURRENTPRICE as they update? You should also think about adding the leader board into the app itself. Can't wait to see the source for this. Very cool idea!

• Comment 11 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 8:23 AM

  

  Another col: Not a bad idea.
  
  Leaderboard: I originally wanted it in game, but at 11PM last night I was exhausted. ;)

• Comment 12 written by Bradley Moore on 23 April 2009, at 8:26 AM

  

  Some feedback. =)
  
  After clicking on a stock, I head down and enter an amount of shares to buy/sell. However, you have to click on the up or down arrow to get the buy/sell button to enable.

• Comment 13 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 8:28 AM

  

  @Ray - You know you have started something now don't you?
  
  Maybe another sugestion over time is something to remember what price the stock was purchased for, so that they know how much money is potential going to be earned lost etc. And maybe a runtime worm, that shows the rise and fall of the select stocks as well.

• Comment 14 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 8:29 AM

  

  @Bradley: Agreed. I was trying to be smart so that you couldn't hit the button till a value was there. I need to fix it.
  
  @Andrew: The issue is that you can buy X shares of Y at Z, and Y shares of Y at Z-1. The UI to handle displaying all that would be a mess.

• Comment 15 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 8:42 AM

  

  @Ray, doesn't need to be fancy, even a another column layout or something that updates with all the stock that has been purchased an for how much. Let the user work out the profit / loss margins.

• Comment 16 written by Joe on 23 April 2009, at 8:54 AM

  

  fun game

• Comment 17 written by Sid Wing on 23 April 2009, at 8:57 AM

  

  Nitpicky - and prolly due to your lack of sleep - on the Registration page - "Pasword" should probably read "Password" instead. - Installed and setting up now.

• Comment 18 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 9:00 AM

  

  @Sid: Oops.
  
  @Andrew - Maybe so. Like a personal history.
  
  To be clear, I don't plan on spending a lot of time on this. The entire app was meant as a training exercise and blogging fodder. But I'm taking all these comments to heart and will definitely remember them for the next app.
  
  After my lunch meeting (and my food) I've got a minor update coming out to hit a few of the minor UI things.

• Comment 19 written by Sid Wing on 23 April 2009, at 9:03 AM

  

  Ray - Are you gonna release this on RIAFORGE? I'd like to tinker with it if ya do.

• Comment 20 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 9:06 AM

  

  No, but I will absolutely be releasing the code. I'm planning 2 blog entries. One on front end - one on server side - and for each I'll release the code.

• Comment 21 written by Andrew Scott on 23 April 2009, at 9:09 AM

  

  @Ray - Yeah, I am not sure what the values in the brackets reflect against the price. But let's say we add a column that has a summary of the value of the shares for that user, then when it is clicked on a new window or something opens that shows the history of stock sold and bought. I was originally thinking just stock currently held, but a history would be better. But a column needs to be there that shows my stock is worth number of stock x purchase price and summed over the different prices. Writing a sql script to do that should be second nature.

• Comment 22 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 9:59 AM

  

  The value in () is the change since midnight.
  
  I'm not currently saving any history. When you buy shares of X twice, I just have one row in the db for the total # of shares.
  
  I'm not going to spend much more time on game mechanics as I'd rather move on to the 'real' game (but I'm definitely fixing the darn typo and the darn 'cant hit enter' bug).

• Comment 23 written by Joshua Cyr on 23 April 2009, at 10:38 AM

  

  Fun! Couple small suggestions. Though i get the feeling this app is just a test app not your new endeavor, so maybe no improvements needed. :-)
  
  Show what price we bought the stocks at (in chat maybe)
  
  Color code chat (real chatter vs alerts on buy/sell)

• Comment 24 written by Raymond Camden on 23 April 2009, at 12:47 PM

  

  I released v1.005. Makes enter key work in most places. Chat is a LOT nicer now that I bold 'real' messages versus news.

• Comment 25 written by Chris Clark on 23 April 2009, at 2:34 PM

  

  Really neat. I can't wait to see the code.

• Comment 26 written by joshua cyr on 23 April 2009, at 5:34 PM

  

  For the dump of current cash holdings of each player, you should do marketvalue of the stocks they hold too. would be interesting to see.
  
  Also, it needs more cowbell.

• Comment 27 written by Bradley Moore on 23 April 2009, at 9:14 PM

  

  The app threw an error when trying to sell 1,000,000 shares from Xyrex a while ago.

• Comment 28 written by Bradley Moore on 24 April 2009, at 9:44 AM

  

  Error selling 700,000 shares this time for around $145 each. Think that would've gone for 100+ million, so I probably just broke an integer somewhere. Shares were lost, but still fun. =)
  
  http://orangexception.com/expose/images/random/Gam...
  
  Then follow-up error selling 7000 shares. I think my share count was already reset to 0 on the database from the above error, but the client hadn't updated.
  
  http://orangexception.com/expose/images/random/Gam...

• Comment 29 written by Sid Wing on 24 April 2009, at 1:14 PM

  

  Web App for High/Low tracking on the various stocks
  
  http://www.thecomputerwizards.org/gameone/

• Comment 30 written by Bill Berzinskas on 24 April 2009, at 1:16 PM

  

  And the hourly fluctuation chart here:
  
  http://dev.socialcloudz.com/dev/gameone_chart.cfm

• Comment 31 written by Raymond Camden on 24 April 2009, at 1:17 PM

  

  Sid's code makes use of the RSS feed I think I forgot to mention:
  
  http://gameone.coldfusionjedi.com/feed.cfm

• Comment 32 written by Bill Berzinskas on 24 April 2009, at 5:18 PM

  

  track your stocks now too!
  
  http://dev.socialcloudz.com/dev/gameone_tracking.c...
  
  this script uses a UUID in a cookie to keep tracking anonymous and per-user.. also makes sure other users can't tamper with your tracking.. ;)

• Comment 33 written by Dale Fraser on 25 April 2009, at 7:37 AM

  

  Has this been hacked?
  
  Number 1 player with
  
  $2,487,445,097.52

• Comment 34 written by Raymond Camden on 25 April 2009, at 8:45 AM

  

  I doubt it. It is a pretty simple simulation. Not too hard to grow your income quickly.

• Comment 35 written by Bill Berzinskas on 25 April 2009, at 11:19 AM

  

  Nah, I played fair n square. Though, I did write a few tools to graph and track the progress based on the RSS feed. Once I got over to 10 million, it was real easy to make giant leaps off of very small fluctuations. At this point, with 2bil in the bank, I can make upwards of 500mil per transaction

• Comment 36 written by Sid Wing on 25 April 2009, at 10:29 PM

  

  Did some updating - more to come!
  
  http://www.thecomputerwizards.org/gameone/

• Comment 37 written by Sid Wing on 25 April 2009, at 11:08 PM

  

  New error - buying stock - already had 2147450392 shares and was trying to buy another 55000000 - got this error.
  
  ---------------------------------------------------------
  
  Executing Database Query.' faultDetail:'For details, turn on Robust Exception Information in the ColdFusion Administrator'"
  name = "Error"
  rootCause = (null)
  headers = (null)
  message = (mx.messaging.messages::ErrorMessage)#2
  body = (null)
  clientId = "3DD14FDB-3E09-FB17-EF29-B565C56F4065"
  correlationId = "A7FFEDF4-CF9B-5047-5D75-E0A474CD0EC2"
  destination = "ColdFusion"
  extendedData = (null)
  faultCode = "Server.Processing"
  faultDetail = "For details, turn on Robust Exception Information in the ColdFusion Administrator"
  faultString = "Unable to invoke CFC - Error Executing Database Query."
  headers = (Object)#3
  messageId = "44728866-A00E-44B4-D30F-4B1B2080DA01"
  rootCause = (null)
  timestamp = 1240719483040
  timeToLive = 0
  messageId = "44728866-A00E-44B4-D30F-4B1B2080DA01"
  target = (null)
  token = (mx.rpc::AsyncToken)#4
  message = (mx.messaging.messages::RemotingMessage)#5
  body = (Array)#6
  [0] "sid.wing"
  [1] "XXXXXXX"
  [2] 2
  [3] 55000000
  clientId = "3DD14FDB-3E09-FB17-EF29-B565C56F4065"
  destination = "ColdFusion"
  headers = (Object)#7
  DSEndpoint = "orca-amf"
  DSId = "3DD14BD4-F81A-
  
  ------------------------
  
  That's all I could capture of it.

• Comment 38 written by Sid Wing on 27 April 2009, at 8:29 AM

  

  Crash scenario - Fenris at 30 per share
  I buy 2147483647 shares at 30 per share
  Trying to buy 1 more share causes the crash point above

• Comment 39 written by Raymond Camden on 27 April 2009, at 8:34 AM

  

  Can we say maxint? ;) What I need to do is put reasonable limits on portfolio size. Like 1B max per stock type.
  
  Now that I've released the code, maybe someone will volunteer to do that. ;)

• Comment 40 written by Sid Wing on 27 April 2009, at 8:36 AM

  

  Yeah - found it. MySQL "signed" int max of 2147483647 (total number of any ONE stock you can own) and max "unsigned" int of 4294967295 (max number of total stocks you can own)

• Comment 41 written by Doug on 27 April 2009, at 8:41 PM

  

  Can't seem to install it on Ubuntu 8.04. Funny though, you'd think AIR would allow it to run fine regardless of the OS?

• Comment 42 written by Raymond Camden on 27 April 2009, at 8:46 PM

  

  Interesting thing is - the FAQ for AIR (http://www.adobe.com/products/air/faq/) just says "Linux", not what flavors.

• Comment 43 written by Bradley Moore on 27 April 2009, at 10:20 PM

  

  AIR and game installed fine on 8.10

• Comment 44 written by Adam Tuttle on 29 April 2009, at 9:01 AM

  

  Ray just let me know that he's reset all negative shares to 0, and changed the column from int(11) to bigint, so now the max # of shares of a single stock you can own is 9,223,372,036,854,775,807

• Comment 45 written by Dale Fraser on 2 May 2009, at 5:49 AM

  

  Ok,
  
  There is a hack / bug / exploit where you can get as many shares as you like, as I thought last week when people were on crazy numbers.
  
  I now have over a 1000 T so the game is pointless now, but was fun before I discovered it.
  
  Ray email me if you want me to explain, I dont want to do it here.

• Comment 46 written by Phillip Senn on 9 May 2009, at 7:46 PM

  

  Reminds me of an old GWBasic game called Starlane.
  I tried to look up the source code, but it's pre-Internet.
  There used to be an old TRS80 game called Taipan, which was quit exciting really.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipan!

• Comment 47 written by Phillip Senn on 9 May 2009, at 7:52 PM

  

  "quite exciting", not "quit exciting".
  And you have to add an exclamation point to the end of the link or otherwise you are directed to a wiki about Taipan snakes.

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